ThredUp’s HBS Founders Master the Art of the Pivot

All Silicon Valley entrepreneurs know about The Pivot, the shift a start-up makes when it changes course with its business. Few recent HBS entrepreneurs have pivoted better or more boldly than James Reinhart and Chris Homer (both MBA, 2009) with their venture-backed company ThredUp (www.thredup.com), the leading online children’s clothing exchange.

Reinhart, who also received his MPA from Harvard’s Kennedy School, launched the company midway through his 2nd year. The site was originally a peer-to-peer online clothes sharing site for adults. In an article in The Harbus in March 2009, he described ThredUp as being focused on men’s dress shirts. He went on to earn a semi-finalist spot in that year’s HBS Business Plan Contest. CEO Reinhart and his undergraduate classmate from Boston College, Oliver Lublin, then pulled in Homer, his HBS Section D classmate, as CTO.

“We were focused on underutilized assets in adult clothing,” says Reinhart, who previously founded a renowned charter school in the Bay Area. “We launched the first product focused on men’s and women’s clothes in September of 2009. We had a really good launch, getting in the New York Times and on the Today show. It was a great story. And a bad business.”

How bad a business was it? “Customer adoption and use of the product wasn’t nearly what we had hoped,” says Reinhart.

Explains Homer, an engineer who previously worked at Microsoft: “It was the wrong demographic. Men and women will somewhat wear used clothes, but it’s not mainstream enough to be a large Internet business.”

CEO James Reinhart (center) along with his undergrad classmate Oliver Lubin (left) and HBS classmate Chris Homer (right)

An Opportunity with the Children’s Market

 Rather than get too discouraged, Reinhart and Homer changed their focus. “We very quickly realized that the market wasn’t quite right,” says Homer. “The target from the beginning should have been parents trading their kids’ clothes, rather than trading their own clothes.”

ThredUp found a natural market for their swapping focus with children. “We realized there was a huge opportunity in kids because there’s the forced obsolescence of kids’ clothing,” says Reinhart, whose wife was pregnant at the time of ThredUp’s shift toward children. “We launched the kids’ part in April 2010, and we’ve been off ever since.”

ThredUp’s kids’ clothes swapping business allows customers to select a box of clothes for their child and offer up a box of their own, with numerous community aspects and a premium membership available.

Since that first pivot, ThredUp has hit its stride. Says Reinhart: “When we were moving from adults to kids, we had 10-20,000 people, which is nothing. Now we have 300,000 parents.”  ThredUp has now helped parents trade almost 3 million pieces of clothing and is still growing rapidly.  “We’re still adding between 500-1,000 parents a day to the platform.”

Reinhart’s baby girl, now 19 months old, has also been added as a happy customer. She is “dressed head to toe in ThredUp clothing,” the proud father reports.

Patricia Nakache, who led Trinity Ventures' investment

Market Success Leads to VC Interest

 This type of growth in such a key consumer sector attracted the attention of the VC community. After raising a small friends-and-family round in early 2010, ThredUp raised its first venture funding in a $1.4mm round led by Trinity Ventures that July. Patricia Nakache, who got her A.B. at Harvard, led the round from Trinity and joined ThredUp’s board. “I immediately identified with the problem,” says Nakache, herself a mother of three. “It is a fairly universal problem for all parents–a constant process of culling out the old clothes that don’t fit anymore and repopulating your kids’ drawers with stuff that does fit.”

With Trinity’s and Nakache’s involvement, came another pivot point. ThredUp moved from Boston to San Francisco by that fall, and is now located blocks from 2009 MBA classmates Matthew Prince and Michelle Zatlyn and their company Cloudflare. “I think that move has worked out great for them,” says Nakache.

Tim Haley, who led Redpoint Ventures' investment

The U.S. mothers segment is highly coveted, making ThredUp’s focus and community that much more attractive. In May 2011, ThredUp raised a follow-on round of $7mm led by Redpoint Ventures because of its success with this market. Tim Haley, a venture investor and board member of Netflix, and Tomasz Tunguz handled the investment for Redpoint. They were drawn to the company for its success in reaching the mothers segment.  “ThredUp is working in a market for used children’s goods that is very large, highly inefficient and highly fragmented,” says Haley. “And James is the profile of a young entrepreneur you want to invest in.”

Tomasz Tunguz from Redpoint Ventures

ThredUp and “Collaborative Consumption”

 With Netflix founder/CEO Reed Hastings as an advisor and former eBay CEO Brian Swette as an investor, ThredUp is often compared to those companies. ThredUp is also an example of the recent business model trend toward collaborative consumption, mentioned alongside Airbnb and Relay Rides. “I do think it is a broader trend,” says Nakache. “And ThredUp is one of the poster children for it.  Airbnb is kind of another great example. It not only plays on the green reuse trend, but also there’s excess capacity in the system. How do we make better use of excess capacity or excess goods?”

Reinhart likes to distinguish ThredUp even further by emphasizing its community aspects. “Collaborative consumption has become a catch-all for a lot of these businesses. In some ways, we think ThredUp is a bit more nuanced.”

ThredUp recently maneuvered through yet another pivot point when it launched its concierge service last month. The new service is a form of consignment, allowing customers to bypass swapping completely and simply send in their quality kids clothes by requesting a free, prepaid recycling bag.

Homer says the goal with the new concierge service is improving ease of use. “We had been testing a number of ways to get the friction down in listing boxes. The online consumer needs things to be really easy, really straightforward.”

“They are Intellectually Honest and Unafraid to Take Risks”

 The founders’ consistent drive to listen to the market and their customers continues to impress their investors. “The fact that the founding team has always been able evolve the service is very impressive,” says Nakache.  Adds Tunguz: “James, Chris, and the team are fantastic at creating different experiments and testing them. They are intellectually honest and unafraid to take risks.”

Reinhart and Homer credit several HBS teachers who influenced them as they launched and continue to build ThredUp, including Andrei Hagiu (“He was super-helpful in thinking through how two-sided markets get built,” says Reinhart), Clay Christensen, Karim Lakhani and Tom Eisenmann, whose influence is cited by virtually every VC-backed HBS company coming out of his era.

For his part, Eisenmann has been impressed by the team’s determination and ability to shift gears. “I was not optimistic about prospects for that original concept. But to their credit, they persisted and pivoted to an amazing opportunity.”

Reinhart emphasizes the socially responsible aspects of ThredUp, perhaps with a nod to his public service-orientation instilled by his teaching background and his Kennedy School experience. “How do we get longer life and better value out of essentially durable assets?” he asks. “Not treating things like consumables and more like durables will help keep things out of landfills, save everybody some money, and save the planet at the same time. That’s what we’re after.”

That’s another pivot we can look forward to.

 

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3 comments on this post.
  1. Lindsey:

    ThredUp was the place to shop/swap. From the beginning, ThredUp’s concept of swapping clothes with other parents was revolutionary and economical. I joined in the beginning of the company’s interent launching. The business was great, I received so many nice items and met such wonderful parents. Then changes began unfolding and the customers were no longer that, we had become dollar signs. ThredUp would offer what we thought were great incentives to fill and mail boxes, to then find out they were giving up swapping for an online consignment shop.ThredUp’s online consignment is not economical, prices are overpriced and there is no incentive to shop online, when I can shop locally. ThredUp is not an honest business and as the result, many of it’s customer base is leaving. Yes, customers will still shop with them but buyer beware.

  2. erin:

    thredup has the reputation for making sudden changes with little warning and treating their fanbase and customers terrible—there are tons of moms sitting on ‘picks’ where we sent in stuffed boxes full of merchandise valued (at thredup’s request) between $45-$60. Each box on average was to contain 15+ pieces of clothing—now that thredup announced 3 days ago they are discontinuing box swapping and focusing solely on selling clothes in their online consignment store, they tell us that our ‘picks’ are now worthless and were never worth anything! in the terms of use for thredup it says if you owe boxes and leave thredup, they can charge you $100. Also in the first round of SuperThredding they paid you $15, but you did not earn a pick because you earned money. That also shows that the pick has monetary value—-If Thredup would treat their customers decently, they would have a great company, but they show very little concern over the moms who are now stuck with getting a coupon for a discount in their store instead of picks—most moms can’t afford to buy only name-brand clothing. [ed. note: sentence removed]

  3. AuntKiki:

    I am totally disgusted with my recent experience. I sent in ONLY top-notch merchandise. Their website ASKS for “only” the best things be sent in–then why are they selling Carter’s and Osh Kosh?? Half of my items (INCLUDING items that HAD THE TAGS ON!) were “rejected.” It was all Ralph Lauren, Crewcuts, Aster, Naturino, etc. Out of my 8 or so items that WERE accepted, they gave me $23. What a joke. Here is the exchange I had with them. Begin reading from bottom up:
    Samantha,
    This is completely unacceptable, and I feel utterly blindsided and duped.
    ALL of the items I sent in were of the top-most quality, and in EXCELLENT condition.
    Had I known you were NOT going to take these items, I would have resold on my own. Your site BEGS for top-shelf items (which makes me question why I see Carters and Osh Kosh in your shop). I sent you Aster shoes, Naturino shoes, a Ralph Lauren jacket that was NEVER worn, another RL button-down WITH THE TAGS on.

    This seems like a complete fraud to me. It makes me sick to my stomach that my high-end items that you “rejected” are going who-knows-where.
    I plan on letting the rest of my friends who saw the Today Show segment know all about my less-than-satisfactory $23 experience.
    It is a disgrace that you were on that segment–seemed so promising. Seems now that it was simply a lure for you to get merchandise. They should be alerted to be more careful in websites/services that they recommend.
    ——–
    On May 18, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Samantha Smith wrote:
    Samantha Smith, May 18 16:32 (PDT):
    Hi Carrie,

    Thank you for getting back with us. When we receive a bag, we carefully evaluate each item to determine it’s ability to resell in our store. Unfortunately, sometimes we can not purchase an item from a sender. This could be due to one or more of the following reasons: stained, too worn, damaged, out of season, out of style, and/or a size or brand that we do not accept. If an item is not on the itemized payout sheet it means that unfortunately, we were unable to accept it. Any of your items that we were unable to resell will be recycled, thanks to our partnership with national textile recyclers and distributors. The good news is, whenever I purchase an item in the online shop, I am confident that it’s in like-new or brand-new condition. We hope you understand that thredUP isn’t the end recipient of your clothing – we simply hand-select the best items to be passed down to other children.

    I would be happy to explain the Price vs. Payout of an item. The first number is the resale price in our shop. For example:

    Ralph Lauren Polo 5 $ 11.49 / $ 4.03

    The resale price of the polo is $11.49. The second number is the amount we paid you for that item. You earned $4.03. Each item will have a resale price / payout price. I hope that helps!

    If you have any additional questions, please let us know. Thanks Carrie.

    Have a great weekend!

    Best,
    -Samantha

    CARRIE WRIGHT, May 18 14:18 (PDT):
    what about the rest of my items? I sent in many more things than listed here. I’m not sure I’m understanding what is happening. There were shoes, jackets, some Hanna Andersson items. I kept a list of everything that I mailed back to you. Also, I’m unclear on the Price vs. Payout–

    Lacoste Polo 10 $ 9.49 / $ 2.85
    Ralph Lauren Dress 2T $ 13.49 / $ 4.73
    American Girl Dress 6 $ 6.49 / $ 1.95
    Crewcuts Light Sweater with matc… 4 $ 8.99 / $ 2.70
    Crewcuts Long Sleeve Button Down 6 $ 8.49 / $ 2.55
    Crewcuts Long Sleeve Shirt 6 $ 6.99 / $ 2.10
    Crewcuts Light Sweater 3 $ 8.99 / $ 2.70
    Ralph Lauren Polo 5 $ 11.49 / $ 4.03
    This bag did not require a deposit

    Total Earned
    $ 23.61

    On May 18, 2012, at 11:35 AM, thredUP.com wrote:
    > thredUP Shop Clean Out My Account
    > Hi Carrie,
    >
    > Thanks for sending us a thredUP bag! Our team of moms has carefully reviewed it and determined your cashback award based on our ability to resell the items in our secondhand marketplace. To see how much you’ve earned on bag # , please click here.
    >
    > If you have any questions, please check out FAQs or simply reply to this email (we always like chatting with our customers).
    >
    > Thanks,
    > the thredUP Team

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